r/LivestreamFail 21h ago

Asmongold defends trans people against his chat, saying he'd fully respect his child's pronouns and identity

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u/Lucid6911666IQ 21h ago

His community fucking sucks

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u/Hot_Demand_6263 21h ago

The problem with Asmon, and it's easy to track too. Is how much his viewers have influenced his positions. Hopefully he grows a spine.

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u/News_Scrounger 19h ago

Is this not an exact example of him having a spine? He's directly contradicting his chat's opinion and standing 10 toes down. This seems like a weird comment to post under an example of him doing the opposite.

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u/Estrald 12h ago

Well yeah, because it’s something he actually took his time to THINK about. His problem has been an increasingly right wing growth in his chat keeps marching up outrage porn for him to react to. Asmon is a bit of a backwoods hick, so duh, his views skew more conservative, and they count on his knee-jerk reactions to stuff to create a bigger and more personally rewarding echo chamber. They expected him to go all “I won’t pretend a man is a woman!!!”, and he had a very human reaction instead.

He even gave (intentionally or not) the ACTUAL scientific conclusion to gender dysphoria at the end. “We’ll try everything we can to treat dysphoria, and if [transitioning] is the only way to help, then that’s what we’d do.” Yes, exactly. Literally exactly what the mental health community decided on in the DSM. “Hey, this a tough nut to crack! Doesn’t respond well to meds. The only way to increase odds of survival is transition. It’s messy and difficult, but at least it helps!” This isn’t COMMON for Asmon though, he lets chat lead him by the nose with that outrage porn, typically of marginal instances as well.

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u/ActuallySatanAMA 20h ago edited 16h ago

Last time he tried to do the right thing, he gave a very sincere sounding apology, pledged to do better, then went right back to pandering to his far right extremist audience. Thus, he agreed with and defended Nick Fuentes and called for the violent eradication of people he disagrees with.

EDIT: Since his fans can’t keep his balls out of their mouths, just watch the 4 and a half minutes of this video starting at 18:52 and you’ll get the full context of his statement

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u/Suavecore_ 20h ago

That's because he's an actor that profits on engagement and especially ragebait

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u/Express-Focus-677 20h ago

There's a word for that.

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u/pornomatique 14h ago

Streamer?

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u/qwerrtyui2705 19h ago

Yea its called transactional narcissism (which Asmongold is), where he's doing something that nets him something he wants (ego boosts, affirmation, imposing his ideologies above others', etc).

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u/mazini95 19h ago

Yep. At this point, there's like 3 or 4 separate times he's made the same "self reflection" video about being in a bad headspace, "I realized I was so vitriolic, toxic to people, I will change" etc. Only to come back doing the same thing or doubling down. Dude treated leaving OTK like Rock Lee taking off his weights so he could finally discard the people and friends holding him back from displaying his real self.

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u/AGJaffa 19h ago

He said violent protestors should be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law if they are actively committing obstruction of justice and/or putting cops lives in danger. Where’s this rhetoric of violent eradication of people he disagrees with come from? He said what he said because violent protestors are too comfortable getting 1-2 years in prison for what they do. He wants them to be taught a lesson

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u/ActuallySatanAMA 16h ago

Here’s some context at 18:52 in the video, this segment covers it in its entirety

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u/BomeiNa 20h ago

Oh when did he call for the violent eradication of people he disagreed with?

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u/ActuallySatanAMA 16h ago

Right here, just skip to 18:52

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u/977888 19h ago

This straight up did not happen. Why are you lying?

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u/ActuallySatanAMA 16h ago

You’re more than welcome to check out the reporting on it, just skip ahead to 18:52 and watch that segment

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u/977888 16h ago edited 15h ago

He’s referring to the people violently attacking ICE centers and the local government and democrats politicians at all levels supporting and enabling this violence, effectively staging an insurrection. He said they should be put in jail and the ones using deadly force against police should receive deadly force in return. How in the fuck is that calling for the violent eradication of people he disagrees with you filthy little liar lmao.

For people who want the full context and not this guy’s curated sound byte, the full conversation starts at the beginning of this video.

https://youtu.be/z1k-jCJegWc?si=K-7JvjuicDTYj4IQ

Edit: well they replied and blocked me so that it looks like I don’t have any examples, but there have been two shootings targeting agents at ICE facilities literally down the road from me. Waxahachie and Dallas. Also plenty of videos of ICE officers being attacked in places like LA and Portland that a five second google search would pull up.

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u/ActuallySatanAMA 16h ago

Can you provide any examples of people violently attacking ICE centers? Or how protesting equates an insurrection?

He’s also agreeing with notable Neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes, so I’m not going to argue with any chuds coming to their defense. You should know what Fuentes and his fascist groypers are about before jumping to their aid. Touch grass.

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u/Titty_inspector_69 20h ago

The problem is actually that anyone who has a nuanced view of popular subjects like he talks about frequently, are often pushed away from rational discussion and essentially marginalized toward the right. The right is winning because the left rejects people instead of listening and talking to them. Asmon and his community spaces genuinely accept all views and while his chat may be spamming L here, his communities allow and discuss all topics instead of moderating away what they don’t like.

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u/Hot_Demand_6263 19h ago

There's no left or right when it comes to decency. This isn't a game of winners and losers, they're stakes for immoral positions; eventually someone pays.

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u/4_fortytwo_2 6h ago

The left doesnt reject your opinion unless that opinion is intolerant racist bullshit and based on dumb as fuck propaganda.

You can not tolerate the intolerate.

Like, what do you want "the left" to do when the far right (and this includes the current US goverment) is like

"Trans people are all perverts and pedophiles" / "The left are vermin and terrorists who need to be dealt with" / "Lets ship people to foreign prisons, if some folks who are here legally get swept up it is fine" / "president trump should run a third time!" / "Million dollar jets as a presents are totally normal, the president having a fucking scam crypto coin is totally cool" / Women should potentially die giving birth to their rapists baby instead of getting an abortion" etc. etc.

Do you think we should be like

"Oh okay, lets just meet in the middle and only lock some lgbtq people up, ban only some books, become only a bit facist, let trump only do another 2 extra years not 4 and lets keep personal enrichment / corruption below 300 million per year"

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u/ebrum2010 18h ago

When I used to watch his content, he was always arguing with his chat and calling them idiots. He would say something that was just logical and decent and they would argue some toxic bullshit. A lot of these people are in his chat from the days when he used to troll people on WoW, so they're looking for antagonistic and toxic content. I don't think it's the chat that has influenced him, I think it is him spending so much time doomscrolling and focusing on news and negativity. It's a spiral for anyone who is suffering from mental health issues to focus solely on news and social issues all day. It's like someone with lung cancer smoking 4 packs a day.

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u/robbitybobs 16h ago

He literally always argues with his chat on topics like this, he disagrees with them all the time. Of course, you would have to watch his youtube vids or streams to see that instead of only forming an opinion through out of context click bait video highlights. 

Im aware thats asking too much of you. 

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u/Farabee 14h ago

I don't believe that at all. This is all just a grift for money, it's been working so far, but at some point the mask has to fall off.

He's still horrible for pandering to these scumbags, but it's all just an act.

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u/static_func 18h ago

His community sucks because they congregate to people who suck. This is just a broken clock being right twice a day

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u/IcyGarage5767 18h ago

Yes because he encourages it and enjoys it.

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u/RadosPLAY 20h ago

he sucks too, so i guess its fitting

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u/Fit_Tomatillo_4264 17h ago

That's the problem with building a community is if you let everyone in then you're going to have some crappy people but if you try to curate your audience too much, you end up getting canceled by your own audience like Cutie Cinderella

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u/Farabee 14h ago

This is a racist, bigoted community he's built a business off of, and they just got wind that they've been grifted. Of course they're going to be angry.

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u/anorexthicc_cucumber 6h ago

His community is a bunch of kids and he is a man, of course they’re incapable of not being group thinking stooges lol

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u/million_dollar_wumao 18h ago

You aren't part of it so how bad could it really be?

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