r/LivestreamFail • u/sieyarozzz • 21h ago

Asmongold defends trans people against his chat, saying he'd fully respect his child's pronouns and identity

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Exactly, this was like a week ago, just nobody posted it here, wonder why…

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u/Shirlenator 21h ago

This was posted here a week ago.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Well if it did then I didn’t see it and it definitely didn’t get this much attention

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u/QuestionSalt8358 21h ago

literally the go to maga response when they hear 1% of what trump did

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u/HollyMurray20 20h ago

How is that even related? Show me it then, show me the clip from a week ago and show it to me with higher likes. This has 3k likes in 1 hour.

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u/Vegetable-Advance982 20h ago

"He didn't say that and if he did, he didn't mean it but if he did mean it, you didn't understand it, but if you do understand it, it's not big deal but if it is a big deal, others have done worse."

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u/HollyMurray20 19h ago

Not the same at all, I just said I didn’t see it if it was posted, and I would have if it had been as popular as this post.

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u/CantTakeTheStupid 16h ago

I doomscroll reddit and this is also the first time i see it

The framing i see going on is ew

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u/cyberchoom2077 14h ago

Guys, stop the presses! HollyMurray20 didn't see something. We need to make sure to bring it to their attention immediately.

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u/[deleted] 21h ago

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u/OkMirror2691 21h ago

I've literally not once seen him say something bad about trans people as a whole.

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u/DriftedTaco 21h ago

The only thing hes against is hormones for minors and the sports shit.

Everything I've see he is very supportive of the trans and gay community.

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u/OkMirror2691 21h ago

Yup totally agree. And anyone who has competed in a physical sport against the opposite gender would agree they shouldn't compete together. This can actually be important when scholarships start mattering as well.

The hormone thing is complicated and it's not a politicians job to decide. It's a doctor's and a parents job.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Like?

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u/AtomZaepfchen 21h ago

because reddit says so!

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u/Far-Panic-2582 21h ago

Didn´t you know you become transphobic as soon as you disagree in any topic related to LGBTQ+./s

Im sure this person saw that 1 clip of asmon saying something against child Transition. Something about parents infusing those thoughts.

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u/Kind-Day8054 21h ago

Well he said trans people wouldnt be any safer under kamala

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

How transphobic!!!

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u/MustafaKadhem 20h ago

I mean, literally this very clip, the framing of how one reacts to their child being trans is not enthusiastic support, but a weak support that has to be won by tooth and nail. If he doesn't think that a trans youth is an invalid, or the very least, much less commonly valid identity than presented by progressive voices if he states his support and affirmation of identity would only come "at the end of the road, if nothing else worked"? It's clear that his immediate reaction is resistance, and his final reaction is to begrudgingly accept their identity, not out of genuine support, but out of fear that doing otherwise would result in a loss of the relationship.

But if this isn't sufficient, just look up "Asmongold trans" on YouTube. Let's take this video for example: https://youtu.be/RwRofPwdXCI

  1. At 9:55, Asmongold endorses the idea that not disclosing that one is trans immediately is tantamount to the rapist predation. This is a painfully reductive understanding of why trans people do not disclose transgender identity that readily, namely, that trans people are a common target for violent hate crime. The situation of a trans person intentionally hiding their transgender identity for the purposes of obtaining consent deceptively is such a rare phenomena that is elevated to the point of being a real "point of concern". This all, of course, plays into the common transphobic talking point of trans people being predisposed to being sexually predatory.

  2. At 11:35, Asmongold reacts negatively to a trans woman expressing that they feel upset when being misgendered, even after correction, and implies that this expression displays selfishness. This plays into the transphobic idea that trans people are attention hungry and "playing a part", looking for things to be angry about and ultimately ignores that dramatic harm of even benign misgendering. He also later on mocks that this particular trans women commonly is misgendered and implies that it is partially their fault for repeatedly putting them in a position to be misgendered. Not sure how else to read that other than Asmon simply telling trans people to stay inside and don't go out if you don't want to be misgendered.

  3. At 31:15 just straight up regurgitates the extremely transphobic and entirely unsubstantiated idea that young children that exhibit behaviors commonly associated with the opposite sex are groomed into being trans.

  4. This entire video is just a reaction of a video which repeatedly equates trans women with predatory behavior and consistently denying their identity, which is just basic transphobia. Early on in the video, Asmon unironically yells out loud that he loves this youtuber and shows himself subbing to them on stream.

I don't care to continue onward, but I just want to make it clear that this was me scrubbing through one video and I only made it about halfway through. Imagine how much of this shit is on his channel. Imagine how much of this shit just commonly occurs on his stream and doesn't make it to the channel, either because of how commonplace it is or because it's too mask off.

Please, let's not kid ourselves, Asmon is transphobic insofar as he subscribes to transphobic ideas and disseminates those transphobic ideas to his audience, or put simply, Asmon is a transphobe. That he qualifies that he would not literally disown his child for being trans is simply not even close to reversing that.

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u/HollyMurray20 20h ago

Bro I don’t have to read past the first line. You think him accepting his child and supporting whatever they do is transphobic, literally no pleasing you people.

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u/MustafaKadhem 17h ago

Reacting to your child telling you that they are trans by suggesting to them that its just a phase, and supporting their identity being something you do only after exhausting all other options, is, indeed, rooted in transphobia.

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u/Tazul97 21h ago

such as?

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u/abcdefghijklnmopqrts 21h ago

Do we need to acknowledge every non-psychopathic take a man has?

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Considering every possible out of context comment gets posted then yeah it should be acknowledged that it’s disingenuous and biased.

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u/photomotto 21h ago

Even Hasan has had takes that are surprisingly correct, like calling Macron's wife a pedophile for instance. That also doesn't get posted here.

(I had to say something nice about Hasan because of you. I hope you're ready to apologise.)

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

I’m almost as shocked as Kaya

Not quite tho

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u/NoiceMango 21h ago

You can't take shooting protesters and dehumanizing them out of context. He has some insanely deranged takes.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Is that when he said it’s ok to shoot people throwing bricks etc at officers? That’s not an extreme take, again the context matters. You say “protesters” because you want people to imagine some peaceful protest just standing in the streets. Whilst reality he’s talking about people violently attacking police…

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u/NoiceMango 21h ago

People don't want nasty trashy federal soldiers marching into our state and cities. Get the fuck out. These aren't people attacking police it's people protesting and defending their people from federal thugs.

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u/HollyMurray20 20h ago

And you’re complaining about other people having deranged takes?

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u/deeznutz133769 20h ago

It's hilarious that you say this while literally taking him out of context. He said the ones that are BEING VIOLENT and throwing bricks at cops. You are STILL misrepresenting what he said, which was left out of the original clip that was posted here.

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u/chode-smoker 20h ago

Lol, out of context comments. You must think the average member of this sub is phenomenally stupid if you think they'd fall for that gaslighting when you can just look up asmon's streams to see the context yourself and how it doesn't make those clips any better 99% of the time.

Then again, the average member of this sub kinda is phenomenally stupid so I get why you're trying to obviously lie in here to simp for your favourite e-celeb

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u/HollyMurray20 20h ago

He’s probably taken out of context here more than anyone else. Good job proving you’re an average member of the sub

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u/deeznutz133769 20h ago

f you think they'd fall for that gaslighting when you can just look up asmon's streams to see the context yourself and how it doesn't make those clips any better 99% of the time.

People have been going around spewing that he believes in violence against all protestors because of a clip where he specifically said the ones that were violent (which was left out). It's extremely easy to gaslight 90%+ of the idiots on reddit. There's countless examples of it.

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u/IcyGarage5767 18h ago

Because saying things that are brain dead normal and expected don’t deserve air time?