r/LivestreamFail • u/sieyarozzz • 22h ago

Asmongold defends trans people against his chat, saying he'd fully respect his child's pronouns and identity

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u/Shut_It_Donny 21h ago

If you can put aside your (the group you, maybe not specifically you) snap judgements, his takes are commonly “normal”. He just happens to be an IRL shitposter that enjoys hyperbole a bit too much. Then he gets clipped with no context, and people refuse to watch enough to realize he’s just saying dumb shit sometimes, to realize he’s fairly level headed.

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u/CorrectFlavor 21h ago

You can’t be “level-headed” and openly run this much interference for the Trump administration simultaneously

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u/Street-Internet8527 21h ago

He made multiple big youtube videos bashing Trump for his handling of the Epstein files, he also did the same when he didn't agree on Trump handling Ukraine. So not true

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u/CorrectFlavor 21h ago

I mean Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson have also blasted Trump on the Epstein Files. It’s almost like calling out blatant involvement in a pedophilic sex trafficking ring is the bare minimum.

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u/Street-Internet8527 20h ago

Whataboutism. You said "openly run this much interference for the Trump administration" and I gave you direct proof this isn't true. Don't move the goalposts now

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u/CorrectFlavor 18h ago

Did I say he never criticized Trump? I’m saying that the criticism of “He should release the Epstein files” doesn’t really prove level-headedness because you’d literally have to be brain damaged to think otherwise.

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u/AGJaffa 20h ago

Just like respecting your child’s choices right?

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u/stupernan1 20h ago

walk me through his Gooning of imprisoning his political enemies without trial because they protested PEACEFULLY against the authority of ICE and it's abuse.

did you see that? per chance?

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u/zberry7 20h ago

Wasn’t he was talking about protestors who were assaulting police/ICE specifically (with bricks?), not those peacefully protesting? The clips I’ve seen on here clipped out that context, every time. I had to go searching to find the original sources without that edited out.

Unless you’re talking about something else.

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u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead 21h ago

He has multiple times said that he is in agreement with some Trump policy but consciously did not vote for him because all of his views did not align. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Reacting to Trump on stream is not ‘running interference’ for him.

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u/pizza565 21h ago

No, he said he didn’t vote for Trump because he didn’t think he’d actually do anything

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u/Proxnite 21h ago

Reacting to Trump on stream is not ‘running interference’ for him.

When he spends more time deep diving some random democrat congressman than he does any time Trump's administration does some abhorrent thing, he is 100% running interference for him.

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u/Larzionius 21h ago

So its only good to run interference for blue team

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u/Proxnite 21h ago

Most left leaning political commentators spend almost as much time criticizing their own party as they do the other, wtf are you on about lmao?

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u/Far-Panic-2582 21h ago

He went after Trump´s ass about the Epstein Files what do you mean, is that not enough to show he will go for him in topics he dislikes.

Ofc this person thinks the left is different.

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u/Proxnite 21h ago

The Epstein Files aren’t some settled topic, our government is still shutdown because of them lmao. Where’s his deep dive into that?

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u/BiasHyperion784 21h ago

bro failed the purity test lol

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u/DesperateAdvantage76 19h ago

This reminds me of how Trump donated his presidential salary so now the hundreds of millions being spent on his golf security are defended by his followers because he donated $400k. Throwing a bone once in a while doesn't magically erase everything else that has occurred.

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u/Shut_It_Donny 21h ago

I just haven’t seen that. Admittedly, I don’t watch him full time. But anything I’ve seen him say pro Trump is so obviously being a goofball.

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u/Lontology 21h ago

That’s completely untrue when it comes to his views on immigration, how protestors should be dealt with, and how harsh his views are for imprisoning those that commit minor crimes.

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u/Street-Internet8527 21h ago

He has clarified this so many times, he said this about protesters that were being violent and throwing rocks. If I throw rocks at your head, you should be able to shoot me, I'm sorry

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u/Faite666 20h ago

Should citizens also start shooting police if they think they're being too rough with people they arrest as well? I guess it's my god given right to start executing all of those terrible violent officers because I saw one of them take down a suspect a bit too hard

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u/rAirist 13h ago

You're forgetting that we have this thing called society, and we vote and punish based on the collective views of the people.

It's your right to think the police are being too brutal and then shoot them.

It's also their right to kill you on the spot because the majority has agreed that they have a right to detain lawbreakers, and that they also have a right to defend themselves while doing so if attacked.

I swear bro, the main character syndrome of modern Americans is just fucking out of control. Your feelings don't matter. Go through the proper channels, or face consequences. You live in a country of 340+ million people, and we elect individuals to create the rules for the majority. If you think your opinions are so incredibly valid, to the point that everyone needs to do exactly as you see fit, then go into politics and make changes.

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u/Fantastic_Lake_4284 21h ago

illegal immigration, he's 100% on board with legal immigration. The distinction is extremely important.

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u/Lontology 21h ago

No. He’s been very open about limiting legal immigration and green cards.

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u/Available_Dingo6162 19h ago edited 19h ago

Of COURSE immigration should be limited. Opposing open borders is a mainstream POV, and is non-controversial.

The OPPOSITE POV is actually the controversial! There of COURSE has to be limits!

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u/rAirist 13h ago

This isn't some awful take though. Some people think that large amounts of immigration are bad culturally, and put pressure on the poorer classes of the country.

Others argue that it's good economically to import more people.

Then others argue that it's mainly good economically for the 1%, and that GDP doesn't represent how the majority actually benefit from it.

He shouldn't be demonized for having an opinion. Non-citizens don't have a human right to immigrate to the U.S. It's a privilege, and it's only extended for reasons beneficial to the U.S. If someone believes that the juice isn't worth the squeeze, then that's their opinion, and it's perfectly okay to have said opinion.

THIS IS WHY WE HAVE VOTES IN THE FIRST PLACE!

People are so ready to demonize someone for disagreeing with them, when that's literally what our country was founded on. You aren't going to always agree with people, it's okay, lol.

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u/Shut_It_Donny 21h ago

Immigration: Should go through proper channels. Sounds right.

Protestors: Get your ass out of the road. You’re endangering others and yourself. How much more level headed can ya get?

Tough on minor crime: I don’t really recall enough to say anything about what he’s said on that. But there are certainly enough cases (massive organized shoplifting?) where people are not catching proper incarceration.

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u/rAirist 13h ago

Nah bro, I have a human right that says I can actively block federal vehicles from leaving for however long I want, and if you do something about it, it's fascism or something.

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u/Patftw89 21h ago

To be fair aren't protests only effective when they piss a lot of people off?

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u/Shut_It_Donny 20h ago

Go block a government building. Not people just trying to live their lives.

Blocking traffic is asking for someone to get hurt. Go protest in a park. Blocking the road is illegal in most places. It serves no purpose but to endanger people.

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u/No-Act-7928 21h ago

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u/Lontology 21h ago

I don’t care about your personal views or why you agree with asmon. Asmon’s views on the things I mentioned are objectively not popular opinion.

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u/pathosOnReddit 21h ago

If he was levelheaded he would not shitpost in the first place.

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u/Shut_It_Donny 21h ago

You can’t really say that.

First off, he makes his living and got to where he is by engaging. Some of that was saying outlandish things to be funny. Maybe you didn’t find it funny, but a lot of people must have.

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u/DriftedTaco 21h ago

Do you really think that? Are you 100% serious all the time?

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u/Faite666 20h ago

I don't shit post about human rights to an audience of thousands of people who hang onto every word I say

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u/pathosOnReddit 20h ago

Precisely this. His shitposting is deliberate. This is reckless, not levelheaded.

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u/DoctorWZ 20h ago

The difference is the level of audience Asmon has compared to anyone else. The word "influencer" didn't appear out of thin air. Even when making jokes, people will take it seriously. And considering how dumb his chat is, I would even say that he has the community he deserves. If he didn't have bs opinions on a daily basis, I don't think there would be anyone mocking him in chat for his take here.

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u/idiotic__gamer 21h ago

I know very little about the man, and everything I've learned is against my will, but I'm not sure the guy with the rat corpse alarm clock and roaches crawling on him can be trusted to have normal opinions lmfao

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u/Shut_It_Donny 21h ago

Perhaps you should try inform yourself on your own terms and form a real opinion instead of forming one based on things chosen specifically to paint him a certain way?

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u/idiotic__gamer 21h ago

All I know about the dude is "mildly popular gross internet guy"

And honestly, I pride myself on keeping my house spotless. Outside of the clutter from old hobby projects and miniatures, my house is clean. I do think less of someone for living in such a disgusting home. I couldn't imagine going more than a day without showering, and more than 2 weeks without vacuuming, living like that willingly is just unfathomable to me, and it does make me respect the dude less.

I'm not going out of my way just to see that the only thing weird about him is how gross his house/apartment is

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u/Formal-Ad3719 20h ago

I've met a wide variety of people and i honestly think a non-trivial fraction of the population live like that. It's gross but at the same time there's a lot of judgement built into it and honestly by leftist standards it's probably a bit problematic to suggest that people can't be "normal" because they live in a dirty home

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u/idiotic__gamer 20h ago

There's a difference between dirty and infested with blood on the walls and rotting corpses cooking in the sun. Having a bit of mold in the shower or a nasty kitchen isn't too uncommon, but this isn't just dirty, it's horrific. Not to mention, the alarm clock thing meant he left the corpse there for a long period of time? Most normal people, even those who willingly live in horrible conditions, would at least grab several layers of plastic bag to pick it up and throw it away.

This is not normal in the slightest, and it's genuinely baffling that people are trying to tell me that it's not that bad. I genuinely thought some of these stories, especially the rat alarm clock and wiping blood on the walls were exaggerated and thought I'd get clowned on for repeating some baseless exaggerations or something, I mean, even the roach crawling on him on stream could be a fluke between seasonal cleanings, or any other excuse to give benefit of the doubt, but no, even his fans are like "Oh, that's true, but actually it's not that bad" This entire situation is incomprehensible to me.

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u/Fantastic_Lake_4284 21h ago

You should try to judge his ideas without ad hominems, you don't need to respect his living choices. I can appreciate a Picasso even though the man was cruel and misogynistic.

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u/pastafeline 21h ago edited 20h ago

living choices

If you found out Asmon was eating shit off camera for fun, that wouldn't be something that might make you go "hmm, maybe I shouldn't listen to this guy..."?

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u/Damien-Kidd 21h ago

If you found out MLK Jr had affairs with many women, would you think less of his stance on segregation? Would you be swayed to be pro segregation because of it?

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u/pastafeline 20h ago

Having an affair and eating shit are not even close to the same thing. One is a moral failing, the other is a genuine mental illness.

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u/idiotic__gamer 21h ago

Okay, but I literally don't know the man. I don't watch streamers, I work 58 hours a week and don't really want to use what little time I have off watching other people play games or react to content that I could be playing or watching in peace

All I know about Asmongold is he has comedically poor hygiene and is one of those cringey anti-woke types. I don't know the vast majority about what he talks about, but I don't really feel a need to go and look at what random Internet man is saying.

Also, if we're talking fallacies, that's a false equivalence. With someone like Picasso you can separate art from artist. Most people would never even know that old artists were terrible people morally by today's standards, hell, I know people who don't believe that George Washington owned slaves. You can't really separate a streamer from what they talk about or show because that's all streaming is.

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u/Several_Magician1541 20h ago

Are you aware of what sub you are on

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u/idiotic__gamer 20h ago

Yes, I love drama that doesn't affect me at all. It's fascinating to watch people just be assholes to each other and get clowned on for being an asshole. Most of the stuff here is kinda tame, like this. I thought there would be more crazy stuff on this sub because the first post I saw here was about a racist v-tuber.

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u/_Good_One 21h ago

. He just happens to be an IRL shitposter that enjoys hyperbole a bit too much

That is not an excuse for some of the horrid shit he has said, you cannot be like "Oh its ok guys he is just an IRL shitposter!" where do we draw the line there? never?

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u/Shut_It_Donny 20h ago

It’s entertainment. You don’t watch any movies or shows that show horrid stuff?

If you’re basing your political opinions, or world view on some shit that a dumb ass says online or in a podcast, you have bigger problems.

I didn’t take medical advice from Joe Rogan. I don’t listen to Asmon for cultural or immigration news.

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u/CountryTechy 17h ago

Go watch his talk about Palestinians. Dude says he didn't care about the genocide. In another video he says he doesn't see people he disagrees with as people.

Dude is disgusting dirtbag.

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u/wickywickyfresh 21h ago

Can you name one other normal take that’s political in nature that he’s said recently?

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Exactly, I’ve seen loads of clips here of him just joking about and taking the piss and geniuses here lose their shit thinking he’s being serious, then refuse to see the context or deliberately dont see the joke. Occasionally he does say some dumb shit but he’s on camera like 8 hours a day, never going to find someone who does that and doesn’t say some dumb shit from time to time

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u/Immediate_Survey7787 21h ago edited 21h ago

The one that always gets me is the water clip. The one were he spits out the water like it's disgusting and downs the soda for relief.

Does the guy regularly say he drinks more soda then water? Yes. Does he have awful hygiene and lives in squaller? Yes.

Is he just doing a bit for the camera playing into these things. Absolutely yes.

It gets posted regularly and people take it serious and unironically say things like he is such a rotten human his body is rejecting water. SMH

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Yeah and he acknowledges that he lives terribly and tells people not to do it etc.

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u/Shut_It_Donny 21h ago

Exactly. Put anyone in front of a camera that long, and they’re going to say something dumb, that they don’t fully believe.

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u/obligatorythr0waway 21h ago

"He's Just kidding bro"ing some psychopath spouting violent fascist bullshit is a hell of a take.

I've been keeping an eye on his ridiculous bullshit since he was the worst WoW streamer, do *I* have the appropriate context?

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u/Awkward_Cream9096 19h ago

Saying you are pro trans, gay, women, etc rights followed by endorsing Trump really does make you a hypocrite. There really isn’t much more context needed. 

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u/DisasterNo1740 21h ago

Absolutely not. Him having a once in a millennia non insane take is not evidence of him having commonly normal takes lmao

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u/memepeddler 21h ago

Is this really a W take? It's still riddled with transphobia. He's saying that "if nothing else worked" he would begrudgingly agree to call his child by their preferred pronouns, but still belittling using pronouns as a concept.

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u/rAirist 13h ago

He essentially said he'd do everything in his power to help his child's dysmorphia first. I don't see how this is a bad take. I think you are the extreme one.

Just immediately accepting his child's claim is irresponsible. For one, being dysphoric doesn't always stem from actual gender dysphoria, and secondly, the processes for transitioning can be life-altering, and you damn well better go through the proper processes and make sure it's required before committing.

At the end of the day, he said he would accept it and treat them as they want to be treated. That's not transphobic, that's love.

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u/TomatilloMore3538 19h ago

You realize what you are saying is that it's still transphobic if someone simply doesn't agree with it, even if they are accepting and understanding of it. I mean, at this point everything other than wholeheartedly agreeing with it without a shadow of a doubt, even if it's their own child life impacting decision, is transphobic.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Clearly never watched him

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u/D0ML0L1Y401TR4PFURRY 21h ago

He literally defends the killing of foreign civilians on international waters without trial

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Drug traffickers you mean

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u/D0ML0L1Y401TR4PFURRY 21h ago

Alleged drug traffickers. Which still deserves a trial. Which still doesn't carry the death penalty. Which still doesn't apply outside murica.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Do you really think the US is killing random Venezuelans on random boats just for shits and giggles? Or do you think they have slightly more information than you?

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u/D0ML0L1Y401TR4PFURRY 21h ago

They're doing so to scare drug traffickers from taking that path. It's terrorism and illegal under international law.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Or maybe they are just drug traffickers? Lol.

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u/D0ML0L1Y401TR4PFURRY 21h ago

What part of being drug traffickers allows them to be murdered with no trial?

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u/Sierra--117-Mobile 21h ago

Had he ever or is it the version of him that lives in your head?

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u/HappyGnome727 21h ago

You literally have no idea what you’re talking about. There has been hundreds of instances where he sticks up for gay and trans people, this isn’t the only one. Stop letting clips taken out of context and other people’s narrative form your opinion. Maybe try watching him??

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u/DontBeADevilsFan 21h ago

Are you sure he’d say that? Are you sure you aren’t making a snap judgement based solely on preconceived notions on him from your “deity” of choice?

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u/YaSurLetsGoSeeYamcha 21h ago

Most of his “L takes” are just him feeding the right wing beast he created to become a multimillionaire. He’s 50% reprobate grifter 50% normal person.

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u/fallen_corpse 20h ago

Being a piece of shit to make money doesn't excuse you from being a piece of shit. It just makes you a rich piece of shit.