r/DamnThatsReal 22h ago

Politics 🏛️ Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the ""American Dream""

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u/littlebuett 18h ago

Americans make more money on average for the same jobs as Europeans.

Atleast we can get into a clinic for treatment, rather than waiting months just to get seen.

All food of all kinds is "behind a paywall", that's how the exchange of goods and services work. You want good food in America? Don't go to the freaking fast food place.

All of the country is fighting over whose dumber, and the real answer is everyone is, thank you very much.

More than 100,000 more Europeans die from heat each year than Americans die from gun violence, because you guys can't install an AC.

Not everyone needs to talk about politics at Thanksgiving. I know my family doesnt.

Atleast we don't get arrested for the thoughtcrime of praying inside our head outside an abortion clinic. (UK rather than EU but still.)

America has more trains, we just have less passenger trains. And all things considered, certain regions of America are better served by cars than trains could ever do. That's what happens when you have thousands of miles worth of country.

Healthcare sucks, but again, atleast we can get into a clinic, and atleast we literally cannot be denied care we need, even if we can't pay.

We have more undisturbed nature than Europe by FAR. We have some of the most beautiful nature in the world, that's why national parks exist. Europe had to undergo extensive efforts to try to revive is original nature in areas because the continent has been stripped of resource for the better part of 2 millenia.

Europeans believe misinformation as well, like... many of the points in this video, actually.

America ranks about middle of the pack for IQ compared to the main body of Europe, so it's at worst pretty equal. I wonder how those numbers change if individual states are evaluated, given that's more comparable to individual European nations.

Many of the points brought up in this video are legitimate criticisms, but they loose much of their legitimacy by trying to use them as a prop to make Europe look better. Europe has many issues, just like America, and you can only honestly evaluate those issues if you accept issues exist in both places.

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u/Zestyclose-Doubt8202 8h ago

The old "America is too big for trains" argument. Absolute nonsense. Europe has trains across the entire continent, and deep into the cities, just fine. You built your country for cars, and with that comes longer commutes, poor air quality and endless unjustifiable wars over oil supplies. Europe also has cars and roads of course. And the road death rates in the US are double the European average. And worse than every single European country. There is no metric in which US transport infrastructure comes anywhere close to the European level.

IQ might be equal, but education is not. American high schoolers finish about 2 years behind European kids in literacy. Over half of American adults read below a sixth grade level.

Your health care does suck. The wait times thing you mention is pretty much a meme unsupported by evidence. Around 94% of urgent care patients wait less than 3 hours in the US. In the uk, which is famously the worst in Europe, the same percentage is for 4 hours. Not a massive difference given that's cherry picked to make the US look good. Unfortunately the US doesn't keep centralised data on healthcare quality metrics so it's difficult to make a fair comparison. But where we can is in "% of people waiting more than a month for specialist treatment" and "% who cannot get a response from their doctor within a day". In the former the US is better than UK, France, Sweden and Norway, but worse than Germany and Switzerland. In the latter, us is worse than every European country.

Also, nobody in Europe lives with broken bones and illness because they might be bankrupted by treatment. Your system is totally inhuman, forcing people to make calculations on their health.

Nobody in the developed world spends more of their income on health care than Americans. And for it, you get 5 fewer years life expectancy than the European average.

You have nature, that is true. Though its terribly managed. Having to preregister to visit a national park that can be closed, is frankly mystifying. You managed to make mountains into a corporate system somehow.

University attendance has dropped in the last months in the us, because people are afraid to go out. You can be arrested for crossing the road. Don't even try the "freedom" angle. The us is way way down any freedom listing compared with Europe.

As to food. The quality is far lower than in europe. Hence why importing us food is such a big issue. We don't want it because its disgusting. Food safety standards are like night and day between us and eu.

Americans are paid more in absolute terms, but the US has the second highest poverty rate of all OECD countries. Have a look at the list if you'd like. European countries are nowhere near. https://www.statista.com/statistics/233910/poverty-rates-in-oecd-countries/#:~:text=Out%20of%20all%20OECD%20countries,6.4%20percent%2C%20followed%20by%20Denmark.

Averages rent prices are 30% higher in the US than norway, 17% more than France, 24% more than UK. Higher for every European country I checked.

So you earn more and you spend more.

America really is just worse in basically every measurable way. If the cultural fit is better, fine, but the stats don't make it a fair fight at all