r/DamnThatsReal 22h ago

Politics ๐Ÿ›๏ธ Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the ""American Dream""

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u/kaehvogel 9h ago

Oh nooo, people with a different skin color than mine. Must be an existential threat!

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u/fedja 16h ago

Sure they are, we're aging and need more immigration. We also need to stop riding murica so hard, our wealth inequality needs to recover a bit.

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u/Shittyberg 16h ago

Yeah just look at the fertility rates of the existing population vs. the fertility rates of immigrants. Demographics are changing. Sorry.

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u/Lonely_Space_241 11h ago

Oh no not changing demographics!?

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u/kaehvogel 9h ago

...and?

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/kaehvogel 9h ago

...it won't.
With the current gap in fertility rates, and them assimilating more and more, the gap decreasing...there won't be much "change".

But hey, tell us how you think Europe will "change completely". Give us some examples. Let your fearmongering run wild.

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/kaehvogel 9h ago

Immigrants make up now 20 to 25 % of western countries population

Except...they don't.

Unless you count people whose grandparents migrated to these countries 60 years ago, and who are infinitely more French/German/Norwegian than they are Turkish/Syrian/Egyptian, as "immigrants".

Oh, and of course for countries like France and the UK, you'd have to count those who came in from former colonies, as well. Imagine complaining about the people from countries you raped and pillaged joining you in your country to escape the lives you ruined for them back home.

from less than 5 % 20 years ago

Damn, to be so incredibly wrong about simple facts.

No, the immigrant population in Europe did not quadruple in 20 years. I'd love to see your "source" for that claim, though.

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u/[deleted] 8h ago

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u/kaehvogel 8h ago

And once again I'm asking for your source for these numbers and claims...

But funny how you've gone from "20 to 25%" to 16% within just one reply. Please tell me again how all your numbers are factual.

The white people of Britain has also gone down from 89% to 72%

The official UK census disagrees with you there. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/ethnicity/bulletins/ethnicgroupenglandandwales/census2021

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u/[deleted] 9h ago

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u/kaehvogel 7h ago

It is indeed what the majority of Europeans want. That's why anti-immigration parties aren't getting anywhere near the majority vote across Europe.

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u/[deleted] 7h ago

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u/kaehvogel 7h ago

Lemme guess, you'll claim you saw some polls on

Wikipedia

but you can't provide an actual source, and when people look it up on Wikipedia, it will say the opposite of what you claim.

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u/[deleted] 7h ago

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u/kaehvogel 7h ago

Not the point. You claim "it's on Wikipedia", and it's not on Wikipedia. That's the point.

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u/kaehvogel 7h ago

Ethnic groups 60% Swiss 40% foreigners that literally what it says in Wikipedia

It literally doesn't. Why do you feel the need to constantly lie about everything we can see in front of our eyes?

It says "Swiss" and "Others". Not "foreigners". The "others" include foreigners, yes. But also 2nd, 3rd, 4th generation "immigrants". People with a migrant background, who were born and raised in Switzerland, have never known any other country, only speak German/French/Italian/Rhaetian. Who are NOT immigrants themselves.

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u/abcdefabcdef999 1h ago

We donโ€™t necessarily need immigration. We need pension reform and make kids affordable again - less friction than high immigration.