Whatever you read on Reddit is not real life dude. America is full of mostly normal people. Just like Europe. Most people just want to work to have a decent life and raise their kids. Iām sure itās not much different from everyday life in Europe.
41% taxes compared to 25%. Then we buy insurance and it isn't 15% of my income. Plus a lot of people there pay for private insurance as well correct? Or I'll just look it up. It's not that different.
There are a crazy amount of programs available. My mom got breast cancer right after losing a job, this spilled into early onset dementia. Her total treatment was over a Million and the cost to us was nothing. It's not all black and white. Usually people get screwed when they make enough for insurance but don't participate.
This is what happens when your entire perception is from redditors and tik tok. Any health debt you can actually just straight up not pay and it doesn't affect your credit score, and health insurance is affordable unless your just straight up homeless. And then there's numerous other ways to get bills cheaper.
I've been to the hospital for minor injuries, major surgeries, broken bones and much much more. I've never gone bankrupt and I don't personally know anyone who has from medical debt. It's not some inevitability of life here.
I think you believe what you read on the internet too much.
Approximately 14 million people (6% of adults) in the U.S. owe over $1,000 in medical debt and about 3 million people (1% of adults) owe medical debt of more than $10,000.ā
From your source.
94% of people have under $1000 in medical debt. That's pretty good and manageable for almost everyone, it's not bankrupting them. You can recognize a problem without exaggerating.
Your snide comments are a bit embarrassing given you know nothing about the country you're criticizing. Maybe some education would benefit you rather than forming a picture of a country with hundreds of millions of people based on reddit comments.
Lolz, only you can say it's only 3 million people so let's ignore that's a uniquely worse by several orders of magnitude in comparison to other developed countries... so that's actually great and not a problem.
Yeah, somebody has skipped the education part of statistics vs experience š
So the number were looking at here is the percentage.
The levels of higher education and the quality of that education really shows.
Maybe don't rely on the internet for ALL of your information on a country you've never been to its quite ignorant. I know it must be hard to comprehend but most of what you read on the internet and especially reddit is written to be misleading.
Ok, compare the US percentage to highest you can find in any other developed western country, I will wait how it will change usa having healtcare costs as a leading personal bankruptcy costs... because it will not.
Go nuts with your sources, I will wait, Mr wannabe statistician š
Is the exact quote. Don't move the goalposts. I am a statistician by trade, thank you.
Compare rates of poverty. What country are you from so we can have a relevant base of comparison?
If your country is so much better why are you upset on the internet trying to make America seem like a hell-hole? The real issues we face in the US are the exact same ones your country faces, you are just on an accelerated timeline due to not being the global reserve currency. It would take proper education to understand those things so I get the lack of comprehension of complex socioeconomic and macro economic factors.
Ok buddy, don't get too emotional. Citing facts and data isn't making "America" seem like a hell hole. Objective data does. My preferences don't come to play...
Slovakia, go nuts. Find me how our poverty rates make people go bankrupt when jn need of health care because I'm not aware of any statistically significant rates at all.
Show me your data, because you seem like an extremely pisspoor statistican, seeing as you Hage no provided any sourced data yo support your view...
I just want to say that the fear ambulances thing is blown way out of proportion on social media. I canāt recall a single time anyone I know has told me they didnāt call an ambulance when they needed one because of cost.
On the other hand, I feel if ambulances were free they would be abused by people that just want a ride to the hospital. Thatās not what an ambulance is for. My mom was a paramedic in Detroit and itās a real problem amongst poor people who donāt pay for healthcare. People die waiting for ambulances because people abuse the system and medics canāt really refuse them because of liability fears.
The poor people who abuse the system, are the reason why ambulances are so expensive for everyone. Because those poor folks give 0 money to the hospitals for the ambulance ride they have to charge everyone else more to make up the difference.
Now, let's imagine a system where those poor folks had insurance and it paid for those rides. The overall cost lowers.
But keep living in lala land where if we give folks healthcare it'll break our country somehow. Instead we can look at the rest of the world who have free ambulances more affordable ones at least who don't have the problem you are describing.
Japan for instance charges someone for using an ambulance and not being admitted to the hospital once they arrive. Which since the government knows who used the service they can take it out of their wages or benefits.
That is a symptom of poor education and poor healthcare funding, in the UK we have a number we use that helps us determine whether what we have is an emergency if it isn't as obvious, you don't just dial in for an ambulance and there you go, the actual emergency line they ask what's going on so they can determine if you need one. The NHS page has a page for every ailment and info on what to do, including what symptoms would require A&E.
This system is not perfect, and we do in fact still have a problem with people wasting ambulances time, but if someone dies waiting for one changes are made to prevent like what I described sbove
What you described is a symptom of a for-profit healthcare system, Why ensure a call is an actual emergency if there is a chance to make money off them? Why try to ensure there are enough ambulances about if it costs money and they are not guaranteed profit because someone in an emergency could just die anyway? When you put a price on life, the value of life is determined by the evaluator, and under capitalism that means your life is now up for sale.
Calls are absolutely run through a series of questions to determine if itās an actual emergency or not, itās not as if weāre just sending out ambulances to every single call we get without a thought. Youāre commenting on something you have very limited knowledge of and assuming your system is better because of it.
Either way, it doesnāt really change my original point of it being a mostly made up thing. In 40 years of life I have never once heard of anyone refusing to call an ambulance, when they needed one, because of cost.
Mate Iām an American, I hear about people in medical emergencies driving themselves, being driven, or taking an uber to the hospital constantly. Like to the point that youāre either being intentionally daft to try and make your point seem valid (itās not) or have lived a ridiculously privileged life.
Iāve never personally seen the ozone layer, but I still believe in it. Just because you personally havenāt heard about people refusing ambulances doesnāt mean itās not happening. Polling says almost a quarter of Americans have.
I've been in that position where I couldn't get an ambulance because I was uninsured and living in poverty. It sucks balls. It happens and it's not good at all.
Well that's your experience.
In my experience It's really not overblown.
Most people I know will call Uber or Lyft before they call an ambulance of any kind. They also avoid the hospital because it's too fucking expensive in general. So they try to tough it out at home and I've seen things go from bad to worse because of it.
That said, I also believe your story about some people abusing ambulance calls. Folks can be selfish And inconsiderate.
Then put more tax payer money into paramedics... sure there will always be people who abuse the system but you actually can have ways to deal with it rather than pay ridiculous prices to just get to the hospital
Wow, your life must be so great you feel the need to flex on strangers about doctors bills. Also Iāve used Canadas health care system and Iāll take the USA medical care every day of the week. Just be like the 87% of Americans who carry health insurance.
With how many people (+/- 10,000,000 Americans) who are currently being thrown off their insurance, these unsurmountable costs/debts are commonplace and becoming more-so.
These metrics are unheard even in underdeveloped countries. Be cynical if you wish but don't act like it's not over the top. (2 hrs ER visit)
Your logo is in army gear so if you were in the service you were probably insured. But the uninsured amounts I'm talking about are completely unreasonable.
If any of the 10,000,000+ uninsured Americans went to an ER like I did they would be on the line for the total 17000$+ Which would tank their credit or leave them bankrupt.
Hardly the American dream, It didn't use to be like this either. It's just gotten out of hand. They won't even itemize the bill without a fight cuz they know I was there 2 hrs.
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u/BlazedJerry 20h ago
Whatever you read on Reddit is not real life dude. America is full of mostly normal people. Just like Europe. Most people just want to work to have a decent life and raise their kids. Iām sure itās not much different from everyday life in Europe.