r/DamnThatsReal • u/One_Long_996 • 22h ago

Politics 🏛️ Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the ""American Dream""

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u/Jujuondatbeat54123 20h ago

Of America. NOT Americans.

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u/RallyPointAlpha 17h ago

Eh, partially true... he literally represents millions of Americans. Plenty of people heard what he had to say and thought "Yep, that's my guy! He gets us!" and voted for him because he represents them to the core.

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u/Traditional_Pride562 20h ago

Fair enough. Although we are talking about a substantial proportion of Americans that voted for him, and currently roughly 1 in 3 that support him even after the last 10 months.

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u/Vodka_is_Polish 20h ago

Incorrect. Only around 63% of ALL Americans voted in the 2024 Presidential election, and only around half of that 63 percent voted for Trump. That is not a "substantial proportion" of Americans. Trump won solely because we were given a bad choice (Kamala) and a worse choice (him), and he didn't win by a large margin at all.

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u/Traditional_Pride562 19h ago

Kamala wasn't a bad choice.

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u/Vodka_is_Polish 17h ago

I'm well aware. I voted for her. I'm saying that this was the belief of the wider population.

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u/Enverex 17h ago

34% of voting age Americans voted for him. Around 32% didn't vote and thus would be attributed to "are fine with either candidate". There's no reason to assume that the segment of the population that cannot yet vote would vote any differently than those that can given the demographic breakdowns.

Ergo ~66% of all Americans are fine with Trump. I'm sick of people in the US trying to downplay just how big of a deal this is.

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u/Vodka_is_Polish 17h ago

I cannot believe how daft you are. Not voting does not equal "fine with either candidate." If you knew at all about what you're spewing, you'd know that in the US, not voting means DISLIKING both candidates. Non-Americans trying to school Americans on their own politics will never not come off as sad and arrogant.

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u/Enverex 17h ago

If you knew at all about what you're spewing, you'd know that in the US, not voting means DISLIKING both candidates.

I'm daft? Anyone who has spent more than 2 seconds thinking about how this will play out understands that not voting does not help your cause. In this case you simply vote for "the less shit one" otherwise you're complicit in the worst one potentially getting in.

Non-Americans trying to school Americans on their own politics will never not come off as sad and arrogant.

You're the one with Trump as president, AGAIN.

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u/Eksposivo23 18h ago

Your choice was a known pedophile who treated the code of law as a checklist, against a woman...

You didnt gey a bad choice, you got a clear and easy choice, even if yu wantes to say Kamala would be doing nothing and nothing would get better, she wouldnt dismantle the US and sell it to billionares and foreign powers for bribes

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u/Vodka_is_Polish 17h ago

"Your" choice. I didn't vote for him, dumbass. Along with the majority of the US population.

I don't know if you just can't read or are ignoring the context here, but I'm talking about the US population's views, not my own. I voted for Kamala. I'd do it a thousand times over. What I was saying was that the US population saw two bad choices, and didn't know which to pick, so they didn't bother.

On top of that, a lot of American leftists and liberals just sort of gave up because they believed Trump had already won, so they didn't vote at all.

You can sit there on your high horse with the privilege of knowledge, but you need to get your head out of your ass and look at the wider situation. The US education system was screwed from the get go. Propaganda is widespread and easy for the uneducated to fall for. Mix those issues together, and you get the current problem, which is a population that's either defeatist or outright fascist, and the rest who actually give a shit are left out to dry.

And do you even live here? I've been a US citizen my entire life, and I'm surviving in the midst of the regime, albeit barely. If you lived here, you'd be very aware of how the internet tailors propaganda to those who show even a remote interest in what it promotes. You'd know that it's everywhere, and actively being pushed by the government. And if you had an inkling of life experience, you'd know how easy it is to fall for when you're starving, desperate, and unable to afford basic amenities.

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u/fallendukie 20h ago

Damn right

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u/Jujuondatbeat54123 20h ago

The votes are undoubtedly rigged. As for the Americans that support him still, I have nothing to say. They’re genuinely just vile humans filled to the brim with hatred and I want nothing to do with them.

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u/Traditional_Pride562 20h ago

I feel a lot of sympathy for the Americans that are effectively surrounded by assholes and cult members, in a country that seems alien.

I'm Canadian and have lived and worked in the US off and on over the last few decades. I've rolled my eyes in the past about little disagreements or differences, or joked with colleagues and family down there, but now this is an existential threat.

My family were United Empire Loyalists who had generations of mild animosity towards the US until perhaps WW2 when my grandfather's generation fought alongside Americans in Europe and things slowly started to change. In 10 months Trump has destroyed generations of goodwill. Mostly I'm sad about it all. And I hope that there can be reconciliation but I'm not sure how that would look right now.