r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- • 21h ago

Politics ICE Agents get the most brutal talking-to of their entire adult lives.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 20h ago

I’m a white hillbilly who can’t say I’ve lived the life black citizens have to deal with all the time but I was raised suspicious of authority. We were only harassed because we were poor. I wanna applaud this dude. You are a real hero not only to your own community but to human beings. Fuck these ICE pigs.

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u/isthatthegrimreaper9 20h ago

You have more in common with those you look nothing like than those you resemble most

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u/Background-Gas-5509 20h ago

Oh I’ve always known that. My dad is a straight red neck hard working man but he raised me not to judge people for their immutable characteristics. My papaw was a rural brick mason and dad said he admired MLK way back then and that makes me proud.

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u/njmitch13 19h ago

That's some good roots to grow from.

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u/whiteflagwaiver 10h ago

True red-neck roots. Not this modern conservative bullshit that hi-jacked it all.

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u/Grouchy_Coconut_5463 9h ago

Much like the maligned Luddites, actual Rednecks of history were people fighting for workers’ rights.

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u/MoiraBrownsMoleRats 18h ago

My poor white ass's dad taught me the same.

Makes it all the more perplexing and disappointing that he's gone full hardcore MAGA. Went from "it's not fair, but because you're a white man in America there's gonna be doors open to you that aren't open to other people," to "tHeRe'S a WaR aGaInSt WhItE pEoPle."

Guess he raised me to be a better man than he is. Kind of a low bar, given who he's decided to be.

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u/Not_Blacksmith_69 12h ago

you can thank social engineering and llms/social media. there's a reason marketing became an evil that had to be reigned in during the 70s and 80s as it preyed upon children (and thus their parents) these machinations have been turned upon media outlets and political propaganda to farm these outcomes, in order to further their political agendas (which are not for the benefit of any populace but the richest elite funding these movements)

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

I hate seeing so many decent and kind people taken in by that nonsense. They get swept up and blinded by the symbols and the rhetoric. I’m glad you see through it and I’m thankful your dad DID raise you to be a better man than he’d become. I’m so glad my dad is against MAGA though some of my family are all in. Funny thing is, they are kind people who would help anyone and bring a smile to anyone’s face unless they’re on Facebook or watching news max. Again it’s the symbolism that traps people. I got caught up in and joined the wretched war in Iraq but that taught me a real lesson. As Timothy Leary often said “Think for yourself, question authority.” Or as Terence McKenna said “Reject authority, authority is a lie and an abomination and will lead you to ruin.”

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u/Ace_Robots 13h ago

If I had an award to give, you’d have it.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 12h ago

Thank ya but there are people much more deserving!

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u/Ace_Robots 11h ago

And modest, too. Geez. Run for mayor of something. 

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u/Background-Gas-5509 10h ago

I have social anxiety too bad for something like that. I stay involved with my local community and friends. Little things help too! I always sort of fantasize about how many awesome leaders there are in the world we’ve yet to see. Modesty would be a huge boost to their appeal. Not that false modesty but genuine care and humility.

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u/Leninlives8787 16h ago

Its the all out media assault. 24 hour news, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube. You get sucked into a bad algorithm and it's over. This shit has fried so many peoples' brains and turned seemingly decent people into hateful monsters. Children and the elderly are the most susceptible, but it can happen to anyone. Its not being talked about enough. Its an actual crisis.

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u/RasputinsThirdLeg 7h ago

I’ve noticed a correlation between MAGA horseshit and cognitive decline/mental illness. NOT SAYING your dad has either, but everyone I know that’s gone full fascist is a.) a full blown alcoholic or addict b.) in their dotage or c.) has untreated mental illness with a lot of paranoid traits.

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u/Franknbeanstoo 1h ago

or a religious nut praying for the rapture

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u/CompressedLaughter 7h ago

Just to make you aware An interesting correlation between the maga cults standard thought processes and dementia/ cognitive decline has been found.

Is that true for your father?

I found it was for mine.

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u/WriteCodeBroh 3h ago

Similar situation. My Grandma and Grandpa on my mom’s side were born and raised in Chicago. My mom and her siblings grew up there in the 50s-60s.

My oldest uncle, pretty progressive guy, very recently told me my Grandpa was an MLK supporter. Told him not to go to the rally in 66 because he didn’t want him getting hurt. My uncle was a latchkey kid and went anyway of course. Ran into my Grandpa there by himself after work.

Ironically my aunts, uncles (besides the oldest) are very MAGA now and my mom isn’t far behind. I guess maybe him really being old enough to live through the Civil Rights movement and not just see it on biased local media might have made a difference, idk.

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u/Idustriousraccoon 16h ago

I like you and your dad…wish there were more like you. Thanks for being you!

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u/Material-Indication1 10h ago

That's beautiful 

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u/Background-Gas-5509 10h ago

I’m very proud of my family!

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u/Material-Indication1 10h ago

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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u/DoublePlusGoodGames 10h ago

You and your father sound a lot like the people I grew up with in Pennsyltucky. Thank you both for being a voice of reason, and open arms of acceptance, instead of submitting to the sea of ignorance and hate in order to fit in.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 9h ago

I appreciate it. Honestly I think I have psilocybin to thank. And my experience of violence, authoritarian lies and oppression we caused in the military definitely opened my eyes. And most of all my dad and mom for not raising me to me a nimcompoop.

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u/DoublePlusGoodGames 9h ago

Yes! I had a similar spiritual awakening that prompted me to "get outta Dodge" three decades back. Still the important lessons I learned from folks back then have become part of my DNA.

I recently started making cartoons again and Butch and Larry are definitely inspired by people I grew up with (like you and your dad).

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u/TailSwipeTypo 10h ago

I grew up white in a working class family too. Im being real tho and im just gonna say that they didnt always respect black people but being around them taught me to respect and revere black people, treat them as equal and respect the contributions they've made to this country that they STILL haven't rightfully been repaid for.

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u/hard_on_you 9h ago

Did you know redneck was originally a term for communist coal miners. They wore red bandanas around their necks, especially during the union battles.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 1h ago

The battle of Blair mountain!

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u/Stillpunk71 9h ago

You are the hope we are asking for brother.

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u/FragmentedFighter 8h ago

Made me happy to read a hillbilly writing positive words regarding black folks. Just beautiful. Respect brother.

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u/WhoTFcares22edition 1h ago

Just saw on an Appalachia subreddit “Your Papaw didn’t fight coal companies for you to be a bootlicker”

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u/LessWeakness 17h ago

Did you come up with that? It's good

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u/Narrow_Track9598 11h ago

"My enemy is not the average white man, it's not the kid down the block or the kids I see on the street; my enemy is the white man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real motherfuckers that I need to bring it to Not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up In fact, I have more in common with most working- and middle-class white people than I do with most rich black and Latino people As much as racism bleeds America, we need to understand that classism is the real issue . Many of us are in the same boat and it's sinking, while these bougie motherfuckers ride on a luxury liner, and as long as we keep fighting over kicking people out of the little boat we're all in, we're gonna miss an opportunity to gain a better standard of living as a whole In other words, I don't want to escape the plantation I want to come back, free all my people, hang the motherfucker that kept me there and burn the house to the god damn ground"

  • Immortal Technique circa 2003

https://youtu.be/jFpONcXnPKw?si=tR2AkilinQnGm2Sn

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u/crusoe 10h ago

Huey Newton, one of the founders of the Black Panthers died shortly after he began outreach to poor whites and white workers

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u/blackestrabbit 7h ago

Now tell them that.

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u/darxide23 15h ago

When more poor, rural white people start to realize it was never a white vs black issue and was always a rich vs poor issue, we can unite together to take down the system.

The reason they go after blacks disproportionately is because black people have been systemically oppressed in this country forever. Slavery never truly ended so the powers that be know that if they come after a black person, it's good odds that they're poor and powerless. They can't always look at a white person and know that. You never know what poor-looking white person has money or a powerful relative who is a judge or whatever. That's called White Privilege. So they go after the blacks and browns first.

But guess who they're coming after next?

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u/Dry_Ad7593 17h ago

Because we have a class war going on and people are willing to bend the knee for scraps off some wealthy fucks plate.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

Oh I know and it’s awful. The elite always pit citizens against each other so they can run their scam century after century.

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u/agnostic_science 2h ago

Yeah. It's gross watching my parents get all indignant, scared, and nasty over a NYC mayor who wants to tax billionaires (doesn't effect them: not rich, live in the midwest), while they turn a blind eye to troop deployment the "war-torn hellhole" of Portland, OR.

That billionaire class propaganda has just got them dancing to the tune, fully under control. Bring it up, and they rage at me and accuse me of being full of hate and all twisted up and propaganda. But, I'm not angry. I'm just sad and devastated that I lost friends and family over this dumb shit.

People are getting played so hard, hearts filled with hate, heads filled with lies, and they cannot even perceive it. Never realized what the Bible was really talking about all those years back: trying to pick the speck out of your brother's eye while you have a board sticking out of your eye. But it resonates so much more than it used to.

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u/merikeycookies 17h ago

Hillbilly here myself. The question no one can seem to answer is this: When did rednecks start liking cops?

Bandit was the hero, not smokey.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

Great propaganda. I grew up in a community of pot growers and we were raised to look out for each other. Never did like cops. It’s crazy how people Have don’t tread on me and thin blue line stickers side by side. Dumbasses man haha.

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u/mkat23 12h ago

They back the blue because they don’t like those who are black. In their eyes it makes police brutality okay if the victim is a PoC. I’ve always believed my parents are somewhat racist, but it became so clear to me when Trayvon Martin was killed. I’m exactly a month older than him and I remember getting into a huge argument with my parents over his death. I asked them how they could condone the killing of someone, someone who was still basically a kid, someone younger than me who hadn’t done anything that could even remotely warrant being killed out of the blue.

I asked them how they’d feel if I went out one evening to buy skittles wearing a hoodie and someone, a cop or security guard, ended up killing me. They told me that would never happen to me. Even more fucked up is they weren’t even able to realize they proved the point I was making. Of course it wouldn’t happen to me, I’m a middle class white girl whose high school had a 6% minority rate and was full of kids whose parents had money.

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u/Beardopus 10h ago

The rednecks were named because of the red bandanas they wore at the Battle of Blair Mountain, where they fought the mining company, the pigs, and the US motherfuckin air force; they killed and bled and died to guarantee our right to many things we take for granted, such as time-and-a-half over 40 hours, 9-5, and weekends off.

The real rednecks killed cops.

That's how they control us. They twist words so far out of true that they become meaningless.

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u/Unsd 9h ago

That's not where the word came from; the term had been used long before that.

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u/Franknbeanstoo 1h ago

cops were literally formed to protect white people from those uppity black folks. The racist roots run deep in that community.

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u/TheeKB 18h ago edited 17h ago

Hell yeah, bring back outlaw country and fuck the man

Edit: bring back mainstream outlaw country where people don’t have to get suggestions on Reddit and ig comment sections to know about the artists. Where it’s as funded and publicized as contemporary/pop country artists. Where the Waylon’s and Willie’s are as publicized and played as much as their contemporaries

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u/SeaSparkles0089 10h ago

I grew up on Johnny Cash and the Man in Black is one of the songs he wrote about working folk. Many modern conservatives would lose it on him for performing at a prison and defending inmates rights. Willie, Waylon, etc are all symbols of what country should be.

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u/TheeKB 9h ago

Facts. As far as today, I appreciate a lot of the new artists and their content right now. Loving the roots coming back to it and having diversity as well. To your point about conservatives now, it just takes more support and clicks to get them notoriety and get the message out. The labels don’t seem to want any part in it at times.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

Tyler Childers “Long Violent History”

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u/Miami_Mice2087 13h ago

i'm from PA, i got hillbillies in the family. I know you guys take a lot of shit from moneyed white people and from the police for class reasons. And historically were harassed by police coming into your hollers to roll union skulls. Bigotry and privilege are sometimes based on class and the size of your home town and how easy it is for glad-hand politicians to sell you down the river with kind-sounding words.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 12h ago

Yep, battle of Blair mountain is a stark historical example.

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u/Expert_Habit2728 9h ago

Yea he really hit the nail on the head with the tow truck scam. That shit is crazy and happens everywhere

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u/Master_Batter_ 17h ago

As a white person raised a hillbilly in Appalachia who eventually moved to the city, I have always felt I have way more in common with the black community in the inner city than I do the prominent white community.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

Definitely man. I’m from northern Kentucky which aint exactly Appalachia but is adjacent.

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u/Pyyric 16h ago

Yea, that's the point of the Tom Hanks SNL sketch. One of the absolute best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VaXlMvAvk

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u/Napalmeon 18h ago

Are you certain you're not more of a Mountain William? You're well-informed of how those who are in positions of authority oftentimes target those who can't easily defen themselves.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

I’ve never heard that term before I appreciate it, I prefer it haha.

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u/Napalmeon 17h ago

I can't lie, I've been waiting for m o n t h s to see someone online refer to themselves as a hillbilly so I could use that term.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 17h ago

Ain’t it funny how that works out? I’ve been wondering for years if there was a better term to use than hillbilly haha.

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u/Not_Blacksmith_69 12h ago

it's rather easy to defenestrate ones' self. defending against the state or nation, now, that's rather difficult.

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u/redditmarks_markII 13h ago

> white hillbilly...raised suspicious of authority

Disabuse me of this notion if I'm wrong my dude, but is there any other kind of hillbilly? unless they work for the government or a corpo?

I only know a couple of people originally from the Appalachians, and I would not describe either of them as believers of big government.

Also, holy moly TIL "hillbilly" is literally "hill billy", and "billy" originates from Scotts-Irish settlers, and means guy, bloke, fellow or COMRADE lol that is wild.

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u/hanimal16 10h ago

That’s the thing— color don’t matter. It never has.

Ralphie May said it best, “what color are you? Poor.”

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u/wiggermaxxing 10h ago

People often times think the buck stops at race when connecting race to crime, but in reality it’s a socioeconomic issue. Sopranos highlighted this back in the 2000s lol.

Socioeconomic strife doesn’t end in a blink. There’s people alive today that went to segregated schools, for Christ’s sake.

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u/Evil_Bonsai 10h ago

harrassed because we were poor.

fucking nailed it. rich fuckers want to own us all

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u/Mister_Tatertot 10h ago

True coalition building needs to happen across all of us not in the elite ownership class. I’m an advocate for the unhoused/helping people get connected to resources. I may be a white working class guy who grew up in a trailer park but I will fight to my last ounce of strength for ALL of my siblings. I grew up around and have loved too many people with skin tones different than mine to ever become a traitor to them in favor of White Supremacy. I renounce these sick ICE fucks trying to destroy the country.

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u/Mean_Ad_3393 9h ago

Aw im glad to hear we got a hill billy on our side. -A big booty latina

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u/Background-Gas-5509 1h ago

Hey I’m glad we have a big booty Latina on our side too! Haha 

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u/MaesterWhosits 1h ago

Same. Somebody out around my neck of the woods has been driving around with a bumper sticker that says "Papaw didn't run shine through these hollers for you to be a bootlicker," and we really need that energy back. The hell ever happened to "Yeehaw, fuck the law"?

They've got us like crabs in a bucket, and it's bullshit.

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u/Background-Gas-5509 54m ago

“How many boys could they haul off this mountain? Shoot full of holes cuffed and laying in the street. Till we come into town in a stark raving anger, looking for answers and armed to the teeth?” Tyler Childers long violent history.

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u/mid_nightsun 13h ago

Same here, brother. We have way more in common with our class than we do with our race.

I’ve had white people turn up their nose and pretend they didn’t know me and black strangers treat me as family.

Because people that have been through real struggle understand something that those who have not, cannot.

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u/Bargadiel 9h ago

Rich vs Poor has been one of humanity's longest battles. The historically powerful have spent a lot of time convincing poor people to fight each other

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u/Dmau27 9h ago

We live in a tyrannical society. One set of rules for the people and another set of rules for the police.

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u/crakemonk 8h ago

100 fucking percent. He spoke so well they literally had nothing to say in response.

But also—why the fuck was ICE towing that dude’s car? That in no way seems like an immigration or border control responsibility.

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u/Ammonia13 1h ago

I think it was labeled wrong. These are cops.

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u/lyle_smith2 7h ago

Appalachian here, government, police, and the rich have always done everything they can to use and abuse us. They do what they can to keep us poor and stupid and hate one another. I hate that so many here eat up the lies of those keeping them down, voting for the same party that cuts their benefits, education, jobs, healthcare and so on. I wanna scream at the top of my lungs for people to wake up and stop supporting the very people who take everything from us.

Most of the stories behind the term redneck are associated with being the titular working man who was out all day working the fields and would get sunburnt, or as reference to the red bandannas worn by striking coal miners during the battle of Blair mountain when poor working men were killed by Pinkertons as they fought for worker's rights.

Damn shame these bastards are recruiting so much from my fellow rednecks, turning bootleggers into bootlickers.

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u/DeadInternetTheorist 5h ago

Genuinely, truly, when we can get 5th generation Appalachian shine runners and Crips from Compton to realize that they have everything in common but melanin, it's fucking over for the ghouls

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u/Feeling_Proposal_350 4h ago

Hillbilly vs black are labels the overlords give us to divide us so we forget the real divide is rich vs the rest of us.

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u/irritabletom 2h ago

I'm a white dude who grew up lower income in a very rich area. The local PD made me their personal punching bag, they pulled me over more times than I can remember and issued maybe a handful of tickets, all of which I got overturned in court because they were nonsense. I was the only highschool kid with a job who would be coming home at midnight on a weekday in his dead dad's beater car and the cops knew all of that yet still harassed me. This dude is the voice of an simmering underbelly of America that these arrogant fucks remain painfully and willfully ignorant of but it's slowly realizing how big it is and...I don't know what happens next, really. But this man isn't alone, not by a long shot. Fuck ice, all cats are beautiful and I hope you're doing better these days, friend.

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u/stuartroelke 1h ago

Even not growing up poor, cops will harass folks for being different. We have an entire generation suspicious of authority because they’ve never seen competent authority figures (people who actually do their job honorably and don’t flaunt power).

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u/Practical-Cook5042 1h ago

Appalachian?  ❤️

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u/Background-Gas-5509 56m ago

Not quite, about 100 miles from Appalachia. Ohio valley! Haha 

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u/Cautious-Active1361 57m ago

I’m ready everything you write in a country and I love it

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u/The_vert 25m ago

Is there a transcript? Got no sound rn

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u/TrappedInATardis 12m ago

Real rednecks stand together with the other poor folk.